IX.5.11 Pompeii. House. Linked to IX.5.13. Excavated 1877 and 1880.
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Room h, east ala
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Looking east across impluvium
in atrium b, towards east ala h, in centre.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. December 2007.
Looking south towards doorway to room h, an ala, on east side of atrium b.
On the south wall were red side panels and a yellow central panel with small vignettes.
These panels were separated by narrow white compartments with painted candelabra.
The black zoccolo had panels separated by narrow compartments containing painted plants.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. December 2007. Wall on east side of atrium b, between doorway to room g, and north wall of room h.
The north wall of room h, the east ala, had a black zoccolo with panels separated by narrow compartments.
The middle of the walls had a central yellow panel with red side panels.
Mau thought that, almost certainly, on this pilaster facing the atrium would have been a personification of either autumn or winter, as was seen on the pilasters between rooms 3 and 4, and 7 and 8.
See Bullettino dell’Instituto di Corrispondenza
Archeologica (DAIR), 1879 (p.197).
According to Mau, the paintings of the cupids were numbered as 16-21 in room b, he described the large red and yellow panels with painted flying cupids with various unrecognisable attributes: height, c. 0.21.
17-21 between the decorations on the upper part of the wall;
17-19 on white background:
(17) on left wall, 0.25 high: cupid looking left carrying a conical cult object in his left hand, leaning on the shoulder: in the right hand stretched out towards the left a bunch of grapes.
(18) on facing wall, 0.35 high: standing woman crowned with leaves, with green robe without sleeves, carrying in her left hand, a plate with unrecognisable objects, her right hand lowered to the hem of her robe.
(19) on right wall, 0.25 high, cupid on foot looking ahead, with a club under the right arm.
(20), found under (17): in a rectangle with grey background, 0.10 high, 0.25 wide: to the right an open volume, to the left a pen and an unclear object, probably the inkwell. On the volume was written the following inscription, as written and supplied by Zangemeister (Notizie degli Scavi 1877, p.248) –
(21), found under (19), in a similar rectangle: an open triptych with pen: in the centre of each of the two visible pages, there was a small yellowish square.
See Bullettino dell’Instituto di Corrispondenza
Archeologica (DAIR), 1879, (p.197-8)
![IX.5.11 Pompeii. Room 3, north wall, wording from trace of poem, as shown in NdS.
Found in the left ala - described as the most beautiful reflection on Venus - was a trace of a poem.
According to Epigraphik-Datenbank Clauss/Slaby (See www.manfredclauss.de) this read
[Non] ego tam
[c]ur[o] Venere[m]
[d]e marmore
factam
c[a]rmin[inibus [CIL IV 3691]
According to Varone, its initial lines peep out from a papyrus scroll, set side by side with a quill and an inkstand in a painting which featured Eros posing with a bunch of grapes and a sceptre.
Only a few words of the poem could be made out “I don’t think a Venus made of marble would be as favourable to me as …….. “ but the text is now almost irrevocably lost.
This was CIL IV 3691.
See Varone, A., 2002. Erotica Pompeiana: Love Inscriptions on the Walls of Pompeii, Rome: L’erma di Bretschneider. (p. 29 and see Fig.1).
According to Bragantini, CIL IV 3691 was found on the north wall.
See Bragantini, de Vos, Badoni, 1986. Pitture e Pavimenti di Pompei, Parte 3. Rome: ICCD. (p. 474)
According to Fiorelli,
“on the wall to the left, finally, we have another Cupid with a bunch of grapes in his right hand, and an object that could not be identified in his left hand:
underneath in a deep purple rectangle one could see an open volume, on which were painted in black some partly vanished words and difficult to understand.
Those that could be read are recorded above”.
See Notizie degli Scavi, 1877, (p. 248)](9%2005%2011%20p5_files/image009.jpg)
IX.5.11 Pompeii. Room h, north wall, wording from trace of poem, as shown in NdS.
Found in the left ala - described as the most beautiful reflection on Venus - was a trace of a poem.
According to Epigraphik-Datenbank Clauss/Slaby (See www.manfredclauss.de) this read
[Non] ego tam
[c]ur[o]
Venere[m]
[d]e marmore
factam
c[a]rmin[inibus [CIL IV 3691]
According to Varone, its initial lines peep out from a papyrus scroll, set side by side with a quill and an inkstand in a painting which featured Eros posing with a bunch of grapes and a sceptre.
Only a few words of the poem could be made out “I don’t think a Venus made of marble would be as favourable to me as …….. “ but the text is now almost irrevocably lost.
This was CIL IV 3691.
See Varone, A., 2002. Erotica Pompeiana: Love Inscriptions on the Walls of Pompeii, Rome: L’erma di Bretschneider. (p. 29 and see Fig.1).
According to Bragantini, CIL IV 3691 was found on the north wall.
See Bragantini, de Vos, Badoni, 1986. Pitture e Pavimenti di Pompei, Parte 3. Rome: ICCD. (p. 474)
According to Fiorelli,
“on the wall to the left, finally, we have another Cupid with a bunch of grapes in his right hand, and an object that could not be identified in his left hand:
underneath in a deep purple rectangle one could see an open volume, on which were painted in black some partly vanished words and difficult to understand.
Those that could be read are recorded above”.
See Notizie degli Scavi di Antichitŕ, 1877, (p. 248).
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, looking
west across flooring towards atrium b.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail of
flooring near north wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper north
wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, panel at
west end and centre of north wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, central
yellow panel on north wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, red
painted east side panel on north wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, looking
towards lower north wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail of
lower north wall at west end.
In the centre of the diamond shape formed by
two parallel lines of “carpet borders”, a flying swan can be seen.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail of
lower north wall at west end.
In the centre of the diamond shape formed by
two parallel lines of “carpet borders”, a flying swan can be seen.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, remaining
flooring near to north wall at west end.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail of
flooring from near north wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail of
flooring.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail of
flooring.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii.
Room h, drawing by Discanno showing a Cupid with a club, and seen underneath, in the small purple rectangles, were two fighters with daggers.
This would have been seen on the north wall, east end, according to PPM. (North wall, west side according to PPP).
According to Mau and Fiorelli, it would have been seen on the south wall -
“On the wall to the right was a Cupid with a club, and underneath in a small rectangle with a purple background one saw some fighters with daggers: on the wall to the left, finally we have another Cupid, that had a bunch of grapes in the right hand, and in his left an unidentifiable object, underneath in a rectangle with a purple background, one saw an open volume with some black words, partly vanished and difficult to understand.”
See Notizie degli Scavi di Antichitŕ, 1877, (p.248)
Sogliano describes the two Cupids as being from the east ala but does not give a wall location.
See Sogliano, A., 1879. Le pitture murali campane scoverte negli anni 1867-79. Napoli: Giannini. (p.53, nos 249 and 250).
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017.
Room h, detail from north wall on west side of
central yellow panel.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017.
Room h, detail of painted decoration from north
wall at west end of central panel.
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IX.5.11
Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, lower north wall below yellow central panel.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, lower north
wall below yellow central panel.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail of
painted border edging on lower north wall below yellow central panel.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail from
north wall on east side of central yellow panel.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail from
east end of north wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail
from painted zoccolo on east end of north wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper north
wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper north
wall with stucco cornice.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail of
stucco cornice in upper north-east corner.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, looking
towards east wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, looking
towards east wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11
Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail of painted zoccolo on lower east wall at
north end.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. December 2007. Room h, looking east.
The ala was decorated with red and yellow panels, in half of which were painted Cupids.
Under the panels was a black zoccolo, and above them was a frieze finishing above with a stucco cornice.
In the small panels of this frieze we see painted on the back (east) wall, a woman’s figure on foot, crowned with fronds and dressed in a green robe, holding a plate or basket in her left hand, and holding the lower edge of her robe with her right hand.
On the wall to the right, was a Cupid with club, and under in small rectangles with purple backgrounds, one sees two fighters with daggers.
On the wall to the left, finally we have another Cupid, that has in his right hand a bunch of grapes and in the left, an object that cannot be defined, below in a rectangle with purple background, one sees an open volume, on which were painted some black words, in part vanished and difficult to read.
See Notizie degli Scavi di Antichitŕ, 1877, p.248
IX.5.11 Pompeii.
Room h, east wall. Drawing by Nicola La Volpe, 1870, of painting of female figure holding a tray in the left hand.
Now in Naples Archaeological Museum. Inventory number ADS 1096.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, looking towards
upper east wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, looking
towards east wall.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail from
east wall on north side of central panel.
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IX.5.11
Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail from east wall on south side of central
panel.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11
Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail from panel at south end of east wall.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail
from painted zoccolo on east wall at south end.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper
south-east corner.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, stucco
frieze from upper south wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, detail of
upper south wall and stucco frieze.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, detail from
upper south wall at east end.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11
Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, looking towards south wall.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, lower south
wall at east end.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, painted
zoccolo in centre of lower south wall.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017.
Room h, detail of painted plant in a
compartment on black painted zoccolo in centre of lower south wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017.
Room h, looking towards red side panel at west
end of south wall.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper wall
in south-west corner.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. May 2017. Room h, upper west
wall above doorway.
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IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, looking
west across flooring towards doorway to atrium b.
Foto Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
IX.5.11 Pompeii. March 2017. Room h, looking
west across impluvium in atrium b towards west ala, opposite.
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Christian Beck, ERC Grant 681269 DÉCOR.
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